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Myll_Erik
01-22-2014, 10:27 PM
This is from the Stoic Team -


Two years ago, the three of us at Stoic set out to make an epic viking game: The Banner Saga. We did, and people loved it, so we're making another one. We won't make a viking saga without the word Saga, and we don't appreciate anyone telling us we can't.

King.com claims they're not attempting to prevent us from using The Banner Saga, and yet their legal opposition to our trademark filing remains.

We're humbled by the outpouring of support and honored to have others stand with us for the right to their own Saga. We just want to make great games.

roder
01-23-2014, 01:17 AM
King.com messed with the wrong crowd of people, starting a David vs Goliath fight....gamers LOVE boss fights!

Mhorhe
01-23-2014, 02:20 AM
This whole situation is absurd to the downright surreal.

I hope King understands quickly that this absurdity is doing nothing but losing them face and zombies from their horrendous creations.

The Internet is stoically behind you Stoic. :)

Aleonymous
01-23-2014, 05:15 AM
We're humbled by the outpouring of support and honored to have others stand with us for the right to their own Saga.

Re: My signature :)

k.ducpham
01-23-2014, 10:45 PM
I love the game and art at first sight. I spent 60 hours through and through and bought the OST. It reminds me about my favorite games such as Tearing Saga or Fire Emblem. But above all, I really like the unique art and animation quality. As an animator, designer, I was amazed by the hand drawing animation and the Banner Saga can be considered as masterpiece in my opinion. I'll give my support to Stoic against King.com because they are abusing rights and laws.

I'll surely buy Episode 2 and 3 when it come out and looking forward for any related products to support your studio.
From Danang city, Vietnam.

Airk
01-24-2014, 11:20 AM
Just popping in to say that I think this situation with King is a travesty and I hope they suffer for it.

Oh, and if you need to do something weird like raise money for legal counsel, I'm in.

The Mad Fool
01-24-2014, 04:04 PM
I know I rather disappeared from the forums after the beta ended, but I was sufficiently outraged by this bullshit that I felt the need to pop my head back in briefly. Stoic, you guys are everything that gives me hope for the future of gaming, and I am behind you 100%. Also, King's suit is a flagrant abuse of trademark laws and yet another example of the pattern of bullying tactics they've exhibited. I hope you guys take them to the cleaners.

Javaman
01-24-2014, 04:14 PM
What can we do to help?

mumoogaipan
01-24-2014, 04:28 PM
I backed this game because I believed in the team's vision. Sure enough, the game more than exceeds my expectations. I have been following the news about king.com and i can't stand it when people push others around by torturing legal standards to get their way.

I am an attorney; if you need any help, you have my axe.

raven2134
01-25-2014, 08:24 AM
I backed this game because I believed in the team's vision. Sure enough, the game more than exceeds my expectations. I have been following the news about king.com and i can't stand it when people push others around by torturing legal standards to get their way.

I am an attorney; if you need any help, you have my axe.

That is just awesome :D

LoliSauce
01-25-2014, 05:17 PM
A friend of mine looked up their trademark and linked a site showing that it has a suspension on it dating back to November of last year. So...unless I'm mistaken somehow (not exactly knowledgeable on law matters) is this even a valid suit in the first place?

Anyway, best wishes for you guys. Their trademark attempts of words like saga and candy are pretty hilarious.

Edit: Found it in logs.

[2014-01-22 01:12:54] <zinac> http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/01/22/king-are-trying-to-candy-crush-the-banner-saga/
[2014-01-22 01:13:13] <LoliSauce> apparently they've been fighting that since summer?
[2014-01-22 01:13:14] <zinac> convenient timing ? Banner Saga was just released
[2014-01-22 01:13:15] <zinac> oh
[2014-01-22 01:13:16] <LoliSauce> dumb shit
[2014-01-22 01:13:47] <LoliSauce> we're gonna trademark the word 'saga'
[2014-01-22 01:14:06] <LoliSauce> they kickstarted that shit before candy crush came out anyway
[2014-01-22 01:14:10] <LoliSauce> don't see what the issue is
[2014-01-22 01:15:39] <animatorZed> http://www.trademarkia.com/saga-85482736.html
[2014-01-22 01:15:39] <zinac> wait they don't even have Saga yet right?
[2014-01-22 01:15:54] <animatorZed> seems suspended
[2014-01-22 01:15:58] <animatorZed> wrt saga
[2014-01-22 01:16:19] <zinac> lol
[2014-01-22 01:17:32] <LoliSauce> get bodied
[2014-01-22 01:55:07] <TMM> so "someone made invalid legal argument and the victim is too broke to pay legal fee to oppose it and is therefore fucked"
[2014-01-22 01:55:15] <TMM> which only happens like 9000 times everyday
[2014-01-22 01:55:33] <TMM> dunno whats special about it being trademark or game related or whatever the hell
[2014-01-22 01:55:45] <Curbeh> lol
[2014-01-22 01:55:59] <Curbeh> Thats pretty sad

In the link it shows: (click for full size)
http://i.imgur.com/EtOb8s3s.png
So suspended in December, less than a month after filing.