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    Trasher vs Raidmaster abilitiy

    Ok, I'll try to ask in this topic (and not in chat)

    What happens if a Trasher uses his ability Blody Flail against a Raidmaster who has turned his own Stone Wall ability.

    Does the Raidmaster resist it all, or first 3 shots still do random armor or health damage?

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    Yes, the raidmaster resists it all. Each flail counts as a separate attack on the RM, so each one is reduced separately to zero! The only chance to do one point damage is on the last flail: If your Thrasher is surrounded by three adjacent allies (quite rare...), his final flail has a 66% chance to do 4 damage (to either STR or ARM). So, the RM's SW will reduce that damage to just 1 point (to either STR or ARM).

    The lesson is generally clear: Do not BF on SW'ed RMs!

    BFing a Shieldbanger is also to be avoided, since each attack triggers the Return-the-Favor/Bring-the-Pain separately. This can potentially destroy all the ARM of the Thrasher!

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    Thx mate, didn't want to find it hard way in game

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    For a little more-in-depth analysis/information on the unit abilities, you can also check out the community-maintained wiki sites:

    Official wiki (still under development)
    Unofficial wiki (more detailed, with examples and guides).

    Also, Kletian999 has done a series of Forum-threads "Know your Units, Episode XYZ" covering all presently available units. These are even more thorough reads that can provide deep tactical insight. Rodereve has also done a more compact unit how-to guide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleonymous View Post
    BFing a Shieldbanger is also to be avoided, since each attack triggers the Return-the-Favor/Bring-the-Pain separately. This can potentially destroy all the ARM of the Thrasher!
    Generally true. Though if your Thrasher has little armor already (1 or 2, really), then it can be a good surprising tactic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mindflare77 View Post
    it can be a good surprising tactic.
    Some people are using such aggressive 3x Thrasher builds against high-ARM low-STR units, like the Provoker. With a little bit of luck (because BF is RNG-dependent), you can kill such a unit with 2-3 BFs without touching his huge ARM! Taking him down the "normal" way generally involves 2-3 AB-hits, and then a couple of ARM-hits or a WP-loaded Puncture shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleonymous View Post
    Some people are using such aggressive 3x Thrasher builds against high-ARM low-STR units, like the Provoker. With a little bit of luck (because BF is RNG-dependent), you can kill such a unit with 2-3 BFs without touching his huge ARM! Taking him down the "normal" way generally involves 2-3 AB-hits, and then a couple of ARM-hits or a WP-loaded Puncture shot.
    Absolutely. I'm not personally a fan of those, as it seems to open the Thrasher up to way too much risk (assuming it's done early on) by completely shredding his armor. Then again, I only run one Thrasher, so I could see it being viable for a 3 Thrasher build, I suppose, if you designate one, maybe two, as your suicide flailers.
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