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    Question Guys Smash, Girls Shoot

    Am I seeing this right that this trope applies to The Banner Saga too? That would be boring. Where are the the shieldmaidens? The female barbarians? Any plans in this direction?

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    Oh Thoth I hope this doesn't become a sexism debate...

    Anyway from what I've heard they plan to add menders which are basically(from what I gather) Norse Spear wielding Jedi so there will be girls that smash.

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    Looks like at least Juno from the storyline will be a spearwielder, but I too would be glad to see more warriors among the women, rather than having them relegated to only shooter and caster roles. Admittedly the female models so far are very hard-bitten and battle-ready, no chainmail bikinis here, so I'm very glad for that!

    I don't imagine you guys could give us actual confirmation on this without spoiling future unit reveals but... a nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat, eh?

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    Yeah and at least Stoic isn't as bad as say Riot or Square Enix when it comes to the disreprency of ranged to melee female characters.

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    From the latest update: "Brendan Iribe and Alex Maxwell star as the male Mender and Spearman, respectively." This seems to suggest that male and female versions of humans will be available, eh? (Don't know about Varl.) Also, Rook, the other main character besides Juno, has a bow.

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    Ah, you may well be right about that Franknarf! I didn't notice there were male and female Mender models there, perhaps the dream of a female spearwielder class is not lost after all! That would be great because games rarely have spearwielders anyway, let alone female ones. The only ones I can particularly think of are Hilde from Soul Calibur and a pretty wide variety of Pegasus Knights and Cavaliers in the Fire Emblem series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zindaras View Post
    no chainmail bikinis here, so I'm very glad for that!
    Word!

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    I think a certain degree of sexism is fair, in light of the society the game depicts, but I do hope the game won't fall into stereotypes like "guys smash, girls shoot". So far, we've only seen a limited selection, and I'm not complaining.

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    To some extent, I think this is simply a technical limitation. The upgrade system locks an entire type of character into a single gender. So all Archers are Female, and all Raiders are Male. Unless you have two types of characters of the same archetype (which is, of course, totally possible) it's harder to make everything as gender-inclusive as you would maybe want.

    You could imagine, of course, having a second genderswapped version of each character tree, but that doubles the necessary art assets (ouch), and art assets of the quality used by the Banner Saga are hard to come by.

    Personally, I wouldn't want a character to change gender due to promotion to a higher rank.

    But I'm pretty sure we'll see another female unit tree eventually. Given that we saw a brief shot of a lightning wielding (female) Mender in the trailer and the story on the website features a healer type (male) Mender, the magic units may feature a reversal of the typical gender stereotypes for schools of magic.

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    I want a varl with a giant crossbow, and so far it doesn't seem like there are girl varl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    I want a varl with a giant crossbow, and so far it doesn't seem like there are girl varl.
    Male or female, a ranged varl unit would be very interesting. ..I wonder, if female varl were to exist, if they would still have horns... I like the idea of the ranged weapon specifically being a massive, heavy crossbow... or a caber. The small, wimpy varl would use a rubber-tree caber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    I want a varl with a giant crossbow, and so far it doesn't seem like there are girl varl.
    Personally I'd perfer a Varl Boulder Tosser

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    The option of having a female character who wields an oversize hammer or axe would be wonderful.

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    Then we're agreed - the next unit added to the game should be a varl that throws women wielding giant axes.

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    i don't think this whole subject is fair to the game, thanks to the recent trailer video we know women in the saga are also capable of reading a male warrior's letter and mourn.

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    There are both men and women characters. Why are some classes male while others are female? Because they're each made specifically to be named characters from the single layer game. There are both male and female menders and in the future we've planned to add shieldmaidens and female horse-people. Also, the "Odin" of our lore is a woman, and so is the most important character in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    ...so is the most important character in the game.
    Would this happen to be Juno?
    Án brynju, mağur er varnarlaus. Án styrks, er hann ekkert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    There are both men and women characters. Why are some classes male while others are female? Because they're each made specifically to be named characters from the single layer game. There are both male and female menders and in the future we've planned to add shieldmaidens and female horse-people. Also, the "Odin" of our lore is a woman, and so is the most important character in the game.
    I for one am looking forward to the single layer game

    these modern multi layer games are ruining things with too many flavours.

    It is in these times of economic scarcity that we need to remember our roots and get back to good old fashioned single layer values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnankie View Post
    I for one am looking forward to the single layer game

    these modern multi layer games are ruining things with too many flavours.

    It is in these times of economic scarcity that we need to remember our roots and get back to good old fashioned single layer values.
    I blame ipad's auto-correct.

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    Peeked on that link and saw this.
    "World of Warcraft has no gender restrictions on class; any class can be either gender. However, a demographic study showed that while not all female players are healers, they do statistically prefer ranged DPS to melee. "
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    my face when I was never the Captain of the LZ 129 Hindenburg, and therefore survived any horrendous events that may have befallen the vessel

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