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    help filling out a reference wiki

    So, I figured it might be nice to have a repository of basic information folks can go to when they have questions about the game's rules. If the basics are in before public launch, we can direct newcomers there or use it as a reference in answering questions. Anyway, if anyone is so inclined, these are several battle-related things I don't anticipate soon filling out myself:

    Flavor text for unit pages would also be cool, I reckon. Don't worry about formatting any of this; I can fix it up ex post.

    By the way, I just changed the page-width settings for the site (so it looks okay at both 1920 or 525, which I sometimes use); please let me know if you see a problem with it.

    There's also a Wikia wiki Dysp has been working on; and some discussion on the forum of making an official wiki eventually. I figure stuff can by copy-pasted elsewhere later if needed, but it's best to actually fill in some content at this point.

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    How do I join the wiki? It won't let me make changes unless I am a member, but I already have an account.

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    @flickerdart: Oh, forgot to mention that you need to make an account with the wiki's host, wikidot.com . If you've already got that and can't edit, ... I think it should prompt you to join somehow.

    Sorry, didn't think of that.

    EDIT: Two forum-goers joined earlier, so I had assumed it was straightforward, but I can't see how it's done... If you can't figure it out, let me know. And if you can, maybe leave instructions here?

    EDIT #2: There should be a "Join" button on the front page of the wiki now.
    Last edited by franknarf; 02-23-2013 at 02:33 PM.

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    Dunno how to add images to the wiki but here are some.

    Gaining Achievement


    Different sources of renown after a battle


    Renown gain


    Move options


    Coals


    Deployment


    Expert Mode toggle

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    Hi Flickerdart,
    I've put your move options picture on the Battle page, in a box with a caption. To upload others, go to the bottom of any page and click "Files". And to include them, you can follow the wikidot guidelines, or use the method I did...
    Code:
    [[div style="float:right"]]
    [[include image-box | file=move_options.png | title="The action menu" | caption=//The action menu//]]
    [[/div]]
    Image-box is itself a page on the wiki that I just created.

    EDIT: By the way, how did you adjust the lighting to focus on the expert-mode timer in the last of your pics?

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    I like how you left empty abilities as though they put the unit to sleep.. zzz

    Flickerdart: Those images look great.

    franknarf: I think he used magic! Magic isn't allowed (yet?) in The Banner Saga!

    Btw, I thought I'd attack the empty ability descriptions.
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    Yeah, I thought it looked suspiciously like magic, too...

    Cool cool. No more sleeper viking cells, I see. Fill in whatever else you like, of course. The Battle page still has some gaps; there's a mostly-empty page for Strand (which could use, e.g., some pictures); and there's not yet a page explaining matchmaking and rankings.

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    It's just Photoshop - a layer of black at something like 40% opacity and a 50px feather oval hole in it.

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    I have to say, the wiki is shaping up steadily and nicely . Keep up the good work.

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    Hi again, just one more update:

    I think it's sufficient that it be a reference wiki, but have set aside a section for pages on tactics and strategy with some very basic content, in case anyone is interested in letting the world know their tactical secrets via wiki instead of a full-on guide. In a sense, definitions for community lingo like "turn advantage" belong on a reference wiki, I suppose... Anyway, it's segmented from the main content.

    As far as the reference content goes, I think we've already done a great job , but have put a few remaining items on a todo list: https://bannersaga.wikidot.com/todo

    EDIT@Flickerdart: Yeah, I tried highlighting part of a screenshot in paint.net (to direct folks to the in-game tutorials button), but it didn't turn out so great, I think: https://bannersaga.wikidot.com/guide:_start
    Last edited by franknarf; 02-26-2013 at 10:50 PM.

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    You gotta play around with the opacity of the layer, the feather on the hole, and some strategic cropping.

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    I tried again, but ended up going for something far cruder: carving an arrow out of the overlay . It's probably functional enough, so I'll leave it be.

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    Hello guys. Just letting you know I signed up for help expanding in the wikidot site.

    I prefer this wiki to other one (wikia) because of its cleaner look and, mainly, the lack of ads.

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    Hey guys,

    Would it be alright with you if we merged the wikidot with the Official Banner Saga Wiki? John says it's Stoic's intent to make the official wiki the "one stop shop" for all wiki-based info related to the Banner Saga. You have all done some awesome work on the wikidot, which would be a very valuable addition to the official wiki. If we did merge the two, the wikidot would be left intact.

    And please feel free to make additional contributions/edits the official wiki, it would be very helpful to have you guys on board!
    Last edited by Guğmundr; 05-08-2013 at 03:45 PM.
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    Hello Guğmundr!

    It's great that TBS gets its official wiki in such a big gaming-portal; I'm sure it'll help promoting the game to a larger market. I'm personally not a big fan of advertisement-filled sites (there's bad-banners and good-banners ), and especially wikis, that are supposed to be community-driven. I understand the market-opening and the running costs issues, it's just my mentality... I don't even mind contributing/donating money for the running costs of a "banner-free" banner-saga (ah, that oxymoron again! ) wiki. Actually, is there a way to kinda reduce them ads?

    Now, concerning the wikidot material, lets wait and hear from Franknarf, who's the master admin there. On my side, I'm sure there's no problem with merging the existing wikidot-material into the official wiki, and I can surely help with contributions/edits/maintenance. It'll be a trouble duplicating efforts between different wiki-platforms, but I guess its for the good-of-the-game, right? I take it that it's you "in charge" for the gamepedia wiki, so you're the contact person there.

    Cheers,

    Alex
    Last edited by Aleonymous; 05-09-2013 at 04:47 AM.

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    Curse probably has a contact person that Stoic is in touch with. I think Gud is just asking cos John probably contacted Gud about it.

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    Hey Aleonymous,

    Thanks for the response! I'll ask John about the possibility of reducing the number of ads.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aleonymous View Post
    It'll be a trouble duplicating efforts between different wiki-platforms, but I guess its for the good-of-the-game, right? I take it that it's you "in charge" for the gamepedia wiki, so you're the contact person there.
    I wouldn't say I'm "in charge", per se, but I was in charge of migrating and editing the content from the wikia (which, by the way, wasn't too much trouble).

    Like you said, I'll wait to hear from Franknarf before starting to tackle the content transfer.
    Last edited by Guğmundr; 05-09-2013 at 01:02 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guğmundr View Post
    I wouldn't say I'm "in charge", per se, but I was in charge of migrating and editing the content from the wikia (which, by the way, wasn't too much trouble).
    OK, I am just trying to find out how things work in that wiki; you know, things like administering, general organization, proofing/editing/monitoring, site-structuring, styling, presentation, information-depth/volume, perspectives etc...

    The "unofficial" wikidot wiki was pretty much laid-out (apart from some "peripheral" pages) and, also, there were only about 3-4 active contributors. This means that things were pretty simple, and most matters of "objective" nature were promptly resolved under the watchful guidance of Franknarf. I'm sure it works in a similar way with wikia/gamepedia, i.e., someone has to be somehow "in charge". What I'm interested to understand is if that person is a TBS-gamer, a forum-regular, a Stoic-man or somebody totally unrelated to the community?

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    Okay, I see what you're saying.

    Basically, the Curse team and I will divide that responsibility. They're better at complex wiki markup and things like that, but I don't believe any of them actually play the Banner Saga. They're not very intrusive when it comes to content, unless it's obviously bad or wrong.

    So if you have any content questions, you can direct them to me. I'll be making sure all the content and layouts fit the standards of the wiki and "resolving objective matters". But I might ask someone else to join me at some point; possibly Franknarf, since he seemed to handle the job quite well on the wikidot.
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    Cool. So, let's wait for Franknarf's OK while we're honing our axes . I have to admit that he is very thorough and prompt in addressing the issues raised, and, obviously he's competent in "complex wiki markup" as you put it.

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